Comments on: Log Home Construction Methods: Notched or Butt and Pass? Part II http://www.bearfortlodge.com/bearfort_lodge/2006/10/log-home-construction-methods-swedish-cope-or-butt-and-pass-part-ii/ Log Cabin Life and the Art of Log Home Maintenance Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:21:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Bearfort http://www.bearfortlodge.com/bearfort_lodge/2006/10/log-home-construction-methods-swedish-cope-or-butt-and-pass-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2111 Bearfort Wed, 20 Jul 2011 03:32:46 +0000 http://208.79.203.60/?p=70#comment-2111 Hey Brian -- Im glad that you liked the article. I'll have to write an in-depth article or two specific to butt and pass construction and the pros and cons. As Im sure you can tell by the two articles on notched logs that I favor the butt and pass method. I give you a couple of quick reasons why I favor that - Less cutting. You dont have to cut notches out of the logs which takes a great deal of time and precision. Since Butt and Pass is not notched - construction goes faster but more importantly the integrity of the full log is maintained. Few cuts in the log across the grain mean less potentially exposed areas for water and insects (think about the corners). As log dry they shrink in diameter - if the logs are not fully dry before construction of butt and pass - no problem however, if using a notched or saddle type joinery, as the logs dry significant gaps can open up around joinery. If the joinery is done by a well seasoned master log craftsman this most likely be a non issue - however, any one attempting such joinery without such experience will most likely find themselves with serious problems not only with serious gaps but shifting logs and potentially significant settling issues. Brian -- I will write an article or two on the subject and just to be fair about it - so that you get the best information possible - I will talk to a couple of buds of mine that are true believers in building log homes using other type of joinery. We have differing points of view on whats best -- but this way I think that you will get a well rounded pro and con for butt and pass as well as some other methods. If I can get them to sit down and we can have a good discussion about it without letting our passions overflow - Ill see if we can capture it on video and post the discussion here on the site. In the meantime -- I will gather up further information and reading materials and get them on the site here available for download. Hey Brian — Im glad that you liked the article. I’ll have to write an in-depth article or two specific to butt and pass construction and the pros and cons. As Im sure you can tell by the two articles on notched logs that I favor the butt and pass method. I give you a couple of quick reasons why I favor that – Less cutting. You dont have to cut notches out of the logs which takes a great deal of time and precision. Since Butt and Pass is not notched – construction goes faster but more importantly the integrity of the full log is maintained. Few cuts in the log across the grain mean less potentially exposed areas for water and insects (think about the corners). As log dry they shrink in diameter – if the logs are not fully dry before construction of butt and pass – no problem however, if using a notched or saddle type joinery, as the logs dry significant gaps can open up around joinery. If the joinery is done by a well seasoned master log craftsman this most likely be a non issue – however, any one attempting such joinery without such experience will most likely find themselves with serious problems not only with serious gaps but shifting logs and potentially significant settling issues.

Brian — I will write an article or two on the subject and just to be fair about it – so that you get the best information possible – I will talk to a couple of buds of mine that are true believers in building log homes using other type of joinery. We have differing points of view on whats best — but this way I think that you will get a well rounded pro and con for butt and pass as well as some other methods. If I can get them to sit down and we can have a good discussion about it without letting our passions overflow – Ill see if we can capture it on video and post the discussion here on the site. In the meantime — I will gather up further information and reading materials and get them on the site here available for download.

]]> By: Brian http://www.bearfortlodge.com/bearfort_lodge/2006/10/log-home-construction-methods-swedish-cope-or-butt-and-pass-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2092 Brian Sun, 17 Jul 2011 06:56:09 +0000 http://208.79.203.60/?p=70#comment-2092 Great article. I'm looking to build a log cabin. Great info here on the notched system. Is there an article I should read regarding the pros and cons and specifics of the butt and pass method? Great article. I’m looking to build a log cabin. Great info here on the notched system. Is there an article I should read regarding the pros and cons and specifics of the butt and pass method?

]]> By: Bearfort http://www.bearfortlodge.com/bearfort_lodge/2006/10/log-home-construction-methods-swedish-cope-or-butt-and-pass-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-150 Bearfort Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:20:00 +0000 http://208.79.203.60/?p=70#comment-150 Hey Randy -- Chinking in the corners can help to a degree -- make sure it is a good seal -- Inspect those corners if you are using this type of construction Hey Randy — Chinking in the corners can help to a degree — make sure it is a good seal — Inspect those corners if you are using this type of construction

]]> By: JohnnyCoho http://www.bearfortlodge.com/bearfort_lodge/2006/10/log-home-construction-methods-swedish-cope-or-butt-and-pass-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-120 JohnnyCoho Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:41:38 +0000 http://208.79.203.60/?p=70#comment-120 Great articles!!! Just stumbled on your site and loving all the great articles and pics so far!! Nice Work!! Currently building a Butt and Pass log home ourselves and nearing completion Great articles!!! Just stumbled on your site and loving all the great articles and pics so far!! Nice Work!!

Currently building a Butt and Pass log home ourselves and nearing completion

]]> By: Randy http://www.bearfortlodge.com/bearfort_lodge/2006/10/log-home-construction-methods-swedish-cope-or-butt-and-pass-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Randy Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:56:06 +0000 http://208.79.203.60/?p=70#comment-111 How about chinking , will that make a difference in the corners? How about chinking , will that make a difference in the corners?

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